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Why 5800 Isn’t Off the Table for the S&P, but not Today

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Our View
As expected, early Thursday, President Trump began attacking Fed Chair Powell again with a post on Truth Social, saying Powell has been too slow in cutting interest rates and that his “termination cannot come fast enough.” This came after the ECB cut interest rates by a quarter point—its seventh rate cut out of the last eight meetings.
Also late Thursday, Trump spoke to former Fed Governor Kevin Warsh about replacing Powell before the end of his term. I personally do not think Powell has done a very good job, but trying to fire him will create another problem for investors and the stock and bond market. All you have to do is look at what happened after the December rate cut to see how fragile things are. The YM plunged by more than 1,100 points, the ES fell by 1.9%, and the NQ declined by 2.5%—everything is so rate sensitive.
This drop was attributed to the Fed’s projection of only two rate cuts in 2025, down from their initial forecast of four, which killed hopes for more aggressive easing. I guess when it comes to President Trump, there is no rest for the weary. If it’s not fighting with China and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, he’s picking on the Chairman of the US Federal Reserve—at a time when bonds and notes have sold off sharply and added weakness to the stock market.
Here are the top five countries that hold US Treasuries:
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Japan: $1,061.5 billion
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China (Mainland): $759.0 billion
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United Kingdom: $722.7 billion
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Luxembourg: $423.9 billion
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Cayman Islands: $418.9 billion
Who’s to say that China doesn’t get pissed off enough to really decouple from the US economy and dump all their Treasuries? I think the US is opening itself up to other countries also selling, if they haven’t begun already.
I have a story, it is about the trading firm CRT. The three partners had a day where each of them made over $300 million. I knew the Riches from the grain room, but the other partner was Steve Klemens, the owner of LFG, a full clearing member of the CBOT, CME, and the COMEX. He sold his company to Refco because of losses, and then Refco blew up days after the acquisition.
I knew him very well, and he always treated me fairly, and I considered him to be very genuine. A few days before Refco was moving out of his office in the Sears Tower, I walked up and he was sitting at his desk—just a few things on the desk and a few pictures on the wall. He told me to come in, and I sat down in front of his desk. I said, “Steve, I have to ask you something,” and he said, “Fire away!”
“When you were up $320 million, why didn’t you sell?” He looked at me and said, “Hell yes, I did—but if I sold, the partners would have sold, and there just wasn’t that type of liquidity. We had to ease out of it.”
This is where many of these big bondholders probably are—too scared to sell. There is no way the US Treasury market could take on that kind of liquidation. It would cause a Treasury crash that could lead to a global financial meltdown. Who knows—maybe it’s all part of China’s plans.
Our Lean
There are only eight economic releases and eight Fed speakers this week, with seven of them coming on Tuesday and Wednesday. There are also three note auctions: the 2-year note auction is on Tuesday, the 5-year is on Wednesday, and the 7-year note auction is on Thursday.
So far, only 12% of the S&P has reported earnings. Q1 2025 S&P 500 earnings are tracking slightly below expectations, with lower-than-average earnings and revenue surprises. Growth is positive but tempered by tariff fears, economic slowdown, and cautious guidance. Financials and tech are bright spots, while energy and materials lag. The season is still early, and upcoming reports from 122 companies (including seven Dow 30 components) could shift trends.
Below is a list of the top 13 companies reporting earnings this week:
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Alphabet Inc. (GOOGL)
Earnings Date: Thursday, April 24, after market close
Expected EPS: $2.02
Expected Revenue: $89.25 billion
Notes: Faces tariff-related ad spend concerns; down 20% YTD. -
Tesla, Inc. (TSLA)
Earnings Date: Tuesday, April 22, after market close
Expected EPS: $0.46
Expected Revenue: $22.4 billion
Notes: Production down 16%, deliveries down 12% YoY; tariffs a major headwind. -
Visa Inc. (V)
Earnings Date: Wednesday, April 23, after market close
Expected EPS: $2.44
Expected Revenue: $8.65 billion
Notes: Strong consumer spending expected to drive payments growth. -
Procter & Gamble Co. (PG)
Earnings Date: Thursday, April 24, before market open
Expected Implied Move: ~3.5%
Notes: Tariff costs pressuring consumer staples margins. -
Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ)
Earnings Date: Tuesday, April 22, before market open
Expected EPS: $1.12
Expected Revenue: $33.4 billion
Notes: Telecom stability amid economic uncertainty. -
Merck & Co., Inc. (MRK)
Earnings Date: Thursday, April 24, before market open
Expected EPS: $1.87
Expected Revenue: $15.8 billion
Notes: Health care resilience with focus on Keytruda sales. -
Chevron Corp. (CVX)
Earnings Date: Friday, April 25, before market open
Expected EPS: $2.85
Expected Revenue: $49.2 billion
Notes: Energy sector faces oil price volatility. -
Intel Corp. (INTC)
Earnings Date: Thursday, April 24, after market close
Expected Implied Move: ~10.1%
Notes: Semiconductor supply chain and tariff challenges. -
International Business Machines Corp. (IBM)
Earnings Date: Wednesday, April 23, after market close
Expected EPS: $1.59
Expected Revenue: $14.6 billion
Notes: Cloud and AI growth in focus. -
PepsiCo, Inc. (PEP)
Earnings Date: Thursday, April 24, before market open
Expected Implied Move: ~3.5%
Notes: Consumer staples hit by tariffs and demand softness. -
T-Mobile US, Inc. (TMUS)
Earnings Date: Thursday, April 24, after market close
Expected EPS: $2.25
Expected Revenue: $19.8 billion
Notes: Telecom growth driven by 5G expansion. -
Chipotle Mexican Grill, Inc. (CMG)
Earnings Date: Wednesday, April 23, after market close
Expected EPS: $0.28
Expected Revenue: $2.9 billion
Notes: Weather and tariff impacts on same-store sales. -
3M Co. (MMM)
Earnings Date: Tuesday, April 22, before market open
Expected EPS: $2.06
Expected Revenue: $7.7 billion
Notes: Industrial sector navigating tariff and demand challenges.
Our lean: The Federal Register notice posted by the US Trade Representative (USTR) on Thursday said the US government will charge fees on all Chinese-built and -owned ships docked in US ports, based on net tonnage or goods carried on each voyage. This would start in 180 days, with a $1.5 million per-port-call fee. One of these days, Trump is going to run out of things to place tariffs on—but that’s not today.
I also do not think the S&P goes down all year. At some point, the news will turn, and the S&P will rip higher. I don’t know about new highs, but 5800 could be possible. At some point, a lot of the tariffs will be negotiated and unwound, and before that happens, the stock market will start a real rally.
But… that’s not today, as the ES just traded down to 5279.00 on Globex. If the ES opens sharply lower off the open and it’s holding above the Globex low, I am a buyer for a day trade and would look to sell any 60- to 100-point rallies.
MiM and Daily Recap


The Thursday session began with early Globex weakness, as ES printed a low of 5293.25 at approximately 7:40 PM ET Wednesday, shortly after the overnight session began. A steady climb followed into the European hours, reaching the Globex high of 5371.25 around 3:30 AM. That 78-point rally set the tone heading into the U.S. open, which came in at 5322.75.
Early regular session trade turned volatile. A sharp decline brought ES down to 5309.75 at 9:39 AM, preceding the morning low of 5285.50 at 10:39 AM, marking a 54.75-point drop (-1.03%) from the earlier high.
A rebound ensued, with ES climbing to 5335.75 at 11:18 AM before another pullback found support at 5309.00 by 12:03 PM. The afternoon rally lifted ES to a high of 5350.00 at 12:33 PM, with follow-through into a slightly higher high of 5351.50 at 12:54 PM.
The market softened into the early afternoon, pulling back to 5324.50 at 1:25 PM and making a deeper low of 5323.25 at 1:27 PM. Buyers returned with strength, taking ES to a session high of 5359.50 at 2:24 PM. This high capped a 36.25-point advance (+0.68%) from the prior pullback.
However, selling reemerged into the final hour. ES declined to 5313.50 by 3:21 PM, bounced modestly to 5332.75 at 3:42 PM, then dropped again to 5304.25 at 4:15 PM during the late regular session, just ahead of the close.
The official cash close came in at 5310.75, down 12.00 points (-0.23%) from the session open, but up 5.50 points (+0.10%) from the previous day’s cash close. The Cleanup session saw modest recovery, ending at 5326.50.
Thursday’s tone was two-sided, but leaned slightly bearish during the U.S. cash session. The Globex market led the upside, gaining 17.50 points from the prior close. In contrast, the regular session gave up early strength and closed red, reflecting some hesitance to hold risk into the weekend.
Volume was healthy, with total contract turnover reaching 1,297,520. The regular session contributed the lion’s share at 975,612 contracts, confirming active participation despite the approaching holiday break.
The Market-on-Close (MOC) imbalance was notably bearish, peaking at a hefty -$1.889B to sell at 3:50 PM ET. The symbol imbalance registered at -73.4%, signaling broad-based liquidation. This sharp imbalance contributed to the final push lower into the closing bell, with ES falling from the 3:42 PM high of 5332.75 down to 5304.25 before stabilizing during Cleanup.


Technical Edge
Fair Values for April 21, 2025:
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SP: 27.96
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NQ: 111.8
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Dow: 167.94
Daily Breadth Data 📊
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For Friday, April 18, 2025
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NYSE Breadth: 77% Upside Volume
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Nasdaq Breadth: 64% Upside Volume
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Total Breadth: 69% Upside Volume
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NYSE Advance/Decline: 76% Advance
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Nasdaq Advance/Decline: 66% Advance
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Total Advance/Decline: 71% Advance
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NYSE New Highs/New Lows: 14 / 40
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Nasdaq New Highs/New Lows: 39 / 136
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NYSE TRIN: 0.94
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Nasdaq TRIN: 1.10
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Weekly Breadth Data 📈
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For the Week Ending April 18, 2025
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NYSE Breadth: 58% Upside Volume
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Nasdaq Breadth: 56% Upside Volume
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Total Breadth: 57% Upside Volume
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NYSE Advance/Decline: 69% Advance
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Nasdaq Advance/Decline: 60% Advance
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Total Advance/Decline: 65% Advance
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NYSE New Highs/New Lows: 45 / 124
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Nasdaq New Highs/New Lows: 110 / 329
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NYSE TRIN: 0.95
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Nasdaq TRIN: 1.05
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Room Summaries:
Polaris Trading Group Summary Friday, April 18, 2025
Thursday was a textbook Cycle Day 2 (CD2) featuring a classic Delta-shaped profile marked by consolidation and balance. The session primarily served as a Capital Preservation Day, where traders were reminded to “know when to hold ’em, fold ’em, walk away, or run” — a theme perfectly in tune with the slow, choppy pace of the market.
Market Overview:
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Opening Context: Price opened inside the prior day’s range, signaling potential for MATD rhythm play.
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Key Note: It was OPEX day, adding to potential market noise and traps.
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CLM Rollover: Reminder to roll Crude Oil to the June contract.
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Symmetry Talk: David and Chief discussed the concept of swing symmetry — always valuable for market structure understanding.
Trade Action & Lessons:
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Early activity included a short in NQ (as confirmed by PTGDavid) that hit 1 target but got stopped on the second — a good reminder about partial profit-taking and tight stops on chop days.
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Market showed snap-and-trap behavior, reinforcing the need for discipline and patience in lower conviction environments.
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Bulls defended key pivot 5285 and LIS Zone, setting up potential dip buys. However, follow-through was limited, as we never broke through ORH or mid-level resistance.
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Afternoon brought the “2pm Shake n Bake” move, but it was more flash than substance — the bulls aimed for 5370, yet momentum fizzled with thin liquidity.
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Final hour revealed a $2.4B MOC Sell Imbalance, sealing the deal on the day’s consolidation theme.
Midday Vibe:
David shared serene beachside images during the lunch lull, creating a calm, reflective pause in the room. The sun, saltwater, and laughter over mountain lions brought a human, grounding touch to an otherwise slow-paced session.
Key Takeaways:
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Capital Preservation was the name of the game.
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Discipline over aggression — textbook behavior for CD2 with inside day.
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Know the environment: don’t push the string when the market isn’t giving.
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Market Structure awareness (symmetry, pivots, LIS) remains critical even in slow markets.
Closing:
David wrapped with well wishes for Easter and a reminder that not every day needs to be a trading day — sometimes protecting capital is the biggest win.
Summary: A measured, disciplined day where traders avoided traps, respected the structure, and walked away with lessons reinforced on patience, pivots, and preservation.
DTG Room Preview – Monday, April 21, 2025
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Tariff Uncertainty:
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Ongoing ambiguity around Trump administration tariffs is keeping strategists cautious.
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No substantial progress in negotiations; superficial comments continue to dominate headlines.
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China accuses the U.S. of “unilateral bullying” and rejects any deal that compromises its interests.
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Earnings & Market Movers:
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Big banks and consumer-facing firms report this week, offering insight into tariff impact.
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Key reports: Tesla (TSLA -40% YTD) and Alphabet (GOOG -20% YTD), both hit by tech sector rotation.
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Macro Moves:
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Bitcoin up over 3%.
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Dollar weaker; Gold hitting record highs amid Fed uncertainty and trade tensions.
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Concern growing over Trump’s alleged push to remove Fed Chair Jerome Powell.
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IMF Meeting:
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IMF convenes in D.C. with global finance chiefs.
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Expected to issue downgraded global growth projections—historically shown to be optimistic by ~0.5% in major crises.
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Today’s Economic Calendar:
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CB Leading Index @ 10:00 AM ET.
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Chicago Fed President Austan Goolsbee speaks @ 8:30 AM ET.
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Market Structure:
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Volatility remains high but is narrowing; ES 5-day average range now 130.75 points.
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Whale bias is bearish heading into the U.S. open with elevated overnight large trader volume.
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Technical Levels – ES:
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Trading in a short-term uptrend within an intermediate downtrend.
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Resistance: 5343/33, 5446/36, 5459/69, 5720/30.
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Support: 4923/13.
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ES

The bull/bear line for the ES is at 5327.25. This is the key pivot that defines the trading bias for today. Currently, ES is trading below this level at 5254.50, indicating bearish sentiment in the pre-market.
If ES continues to hold below the bull/bear line, the lower intraday range target is 5252.75. A decisive break below this level could lead to further downside toward 5186.00, with the next support coming in at 5037.75 and deeper support near 5015.75.
On the upside, if the market can reclaim 5327.25 and hold, that would neutralize some of the early weakness. The first upside resistance is at 5371.25, followed by 5401.75 which is our upper intraday range target. A strong rally through that could target 5472.00 next.
In summary, the ES remains vulnerable while trading below 5327.25. Watch for responsive buying only if that level is reclaimed and held. Otherwise, sellers remain in control with downside targets in play.
NQ

The bull/bear line for NQ is at 18,439.50. This is the level that must be reclaimed for buyers to regain control. As long as price remains below this mark, the tone remains bearish.
Currently, NQ is trading around 18,159.50, showing continued weakness beneath the bull/bear line. If the selling persists, downside targets include the lower intraday range at 18,101.00, followed by additional support levels at 17,940.50 and 17,782.75. A decisive break under 17,782.75 would expose the market to further downside toward 17,125.75.
On the upside, if NQ can firm up and push through 18,439.50, the next resistance levels to watch are 18,547.00 and 18,652.75. The upper intraday range target sits at 18,778.00. A strong reclaim and hold above this area would open the door for a move toward 19,096.25 and potentially 19,153.25.
The bias remains bearish while trading below 18,439.50. Bulls must reclaim and build acceptance above this level to shift momentum and work back into higher resistance zones.
Calendars
Economic

Important events for the rest of the week:

S&P 500 Earnings

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Remember: Not all setups will trigger. Not all setups will be profitable. Not all setups should be taken. These are simply the setups that I have put together for years on my own and what I watch as part of my own “game plan” coming into each day. Good luck!

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